Monday, September 28, 2009
Elton's adoption bid
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I completely agree with Joy Behar. The Ukraine's decision is baffling and wrong.

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I knew you would take me to task over that! So before I reply a little excuse, I'm just getting over a cold, not much sleep last two nights, add to that that I'm not a writer and find it difficult sometimes to get what I want to say in some coherent order. And this is a difficult subject that I see 'through a glass darkly'.
So first I did say that a large number of situations are imperfect, but that's one thing, it's in the nature of life and different to a designed imperfection like having two men or a deliberately single woman raise a child. When I said 'you have to make the best of it' I wasn't thinking so much of the child as the parent, say a woman who has been abandoned by her husband, as happened to my daughter actually, she has two girls three and six years old and with some family help she's making the best of it.
As for this whole gay thing, I'm not against them being able to be open about it, I'm not against civil unions for them, where I get disturbed is the loudness of their demands and the not being satisfied that they've achieved all that they deserve in society. Here in Toronto each summer they have a full weekend of 'Gay Pride' events, including on the Sat a lesbian parade down Church St. [ironic that they pick a street with that name!] and on Sun. a gay parade. I would have thought it enough that they could celebrate in the open with cheering crowds their 'gayness', but no, they have to flaunt it, by 'it' I mean all their various body parts, and the police look on, the Mayor and other civic 'dignitaries' join the parade and for someone my age I see another 'vogue', fashionable political correctness gone way beyond any semblance of common sense.
So I see this vogue for giving them whatever they feel they can demand behind allowing gays to adopt, and no one questions whether it's in the long term interest of the children involved. There will be exceptions if anyone is wise enough to discern them, Elton John may well be one of them, he's rich and the child is in a particularly dire situation
I liken it a bit to the sixties vogues of feminism and free love, we all know what that has led to but at the time anyone who might question it was a fuddy duddy and beyond the Pale.
While I've been home today, I was able to do more than my usual amount of browsing the blogs and two articles caught my eye as being somehow relevant to this but don't expect me to try to say why tonight, or any other night come to that. This is the seeing through a glass darkly bit. First this by Dr. Sanity:

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2009/09/personal-responsibility-and-golden-age.html

and this from American Thinker:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/our_sexual_identity_crisis.html

I'd do hyperlinks but I sometimes have trouble with those in comment boxes.

Lastly an admission of sorts. I can't stand Elton John! Most of his music is crap to me, as is he. That Candle in the Wind thing was awful enough when he wrote if for Marylin, but there was a certain sadness and understanding to it, but to re-cycle it for Diana was as good a demonstration of the crassness of EJ himself.

OK, I'm done.
from Blogger ligneus – September 28, 2009 at 9:43 PM

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OK hyperlinks.

Dr. Sanity

American Thinker
from Blogger ligneus – September 28, 2009 at 10:18 PM

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Wow. Lots of feelings and thoughts!!!

I think you're actually pretty much saying what I thought - that you're very uncomfortable about same sex parents but agree it would have been good for that child (even with Elton John). And by the way, it's a tad relevant that you dislike Elton John so much but how is the quality (or lack thereof) of his music relevant to his parenthood? I mean, plenty of people dislike plenty of people - even our own children dislike us some of the time (well, mine do, anyway) - but being a good parent isn't about friendship. It can happen but it's gravy, if we're lucky. Mostly, parenting is about providing an atmosphere in which a child has a safety net while he/she figures out him/hersef and develops strengths and learns how to avoid or at least recover from the land mines one will encounter as one goes along through life (who mixes metaphors? who?).

In my opinion, it's fantastic when a woman like your daughter pulls things together and "makes the best" of being a single mother. So why isn't it also praiseworthy if a woman chooses to skip or avoid the risk of a bad marriage and being miserable, and goes straight to being a single mother because, presumably, she feels she has someting to offer a child who might otherwise not have even one parent?

Psychological assessments aside, we live in a world where men are sometimes choosing to be with men and women with women. And where flaunting bad taste is an occasional sport like baseball or hockey. And where Howard Stern and the NYC Halloween parade are among many demonstrations that bad taste is not even remotely the province of gays. Gay people exhibit bad taste and maybe publicly and loudly - and so do straight people. It's unpleasant but so is violence and bunches of other things. But if taste has bearing on whether someone should be allowed to raise children, then hardly anyone would be approved.

I agree with you about the crassness of John using that song at Diana's funeral. (The whole Diana thing would be a doozy of a subject for another juicy exchange!) But the fact that something feels strange and odd maybe is not the right measuring rod. Many people used to think it was strange to see mixed race couples, after all, even when their philosophy believed it was fine.

Have there always been so many children around the world living in orphanages?? What's going on in general, do you suppose?
from Blogger jau – September 29, 2009 at 11:29 PM

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